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Post by bigmow on Nov 30, 2006 19:09:35 GMT
I know of someone who uses mini discs for live performance. He doesn't do anything but stand there and sing. When I asked him where he gets this stuff, he kinda blew me off. I presently use floppys with the sound brush and sound canvas. This really works well for me. I play guitar and sing and, of course, everything else is in there. Where does this other guy get all these songs on mini disc with all the music AND back up vocals? Am I obsolete?
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Post by Tiny on Nov 30, 2006 20:01:14 GMT
hi bigmow mini disc,s/ i have a freind he does a solo act he get,s his b.t,s puts them on pc records his voice,s/overdubs does a mix on rec/software then records them on to mini dics from pc,hope this will help you in some way all the best Tiny!  |
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Post by ironbaden on Nov 30, 2006 20:18:26 GMT
That's one way for sure Tiny...another would be to just take the audio from karaoke....you could record karaoke direct to minidisc. No need of the guy blowing you off tho.... someday he'll be hitchin a ride in the rain and you can passhim by. lol
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Post by guilty on Nov 30, 2006 23:10:13 GMT
As I've mentioned before, I simply remix file in Cakewalk then record direct from computer to Mini Disc. No problem.
I've also recorded audio from karaoke disc's in the past but, being a guitarist, the big guitar solo through the middle is always a hassle.
As for the guy singing solo without an instrument, maybe he should video himself and have a look at how stupid he looks. Real muso's don't have attitudes like his.
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Post by midimart on Dec 1, 2006 10:56:40 GMT
Just record our mp3's to minidisc..... Works a treat..
I think this poor fellow should not be made a mockery of lads.... What would you be doing, if you didn't play an instrument. If the bloke has a good voice, let him entertain you. Look at professional artiste, Tom Jones, Englebert, Frank Sinatra - Boy bands, girl bands.... They all make a living just from singing covers....
As for his attitude to fellow, muso's or singers...... That Stinks...!!
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Post by jacqui01 on Dec 1, 2006 15:51:13 GMT
I have to agree with you Glenn,
I think it's a case of Live & Let Live, and at the end of the day if a Pub or Club is happy to book an act singing with Backing Tracks for their customers, then what's the problem, Whitney Houston never had a Guitar under her arm last time I saw her, Shirley Bassey, no don't recall her instrument, plus the fact so many venues won't pay the money for bands now days.
It's great to see someone play and instrument and sing, but if your good enough to work without an instrument and get work then why knock it.
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Post by bri on Dec 1, 2006 16:18:02 GMT
I know if I ever start up again, I won't be taking all the gear with me that I used to cart about. (I haven't got it now anyhow). Don't think I'd be like the guy in the first post though, just because I wasn't playin' an instrument. That attitude is rhubarb and unnecessary to anybody, but especially to "fellow artistes."
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Post by bigmow on Dec 5, 2006 14:23:11 GMT
Fellas,
I appreciate all of your comments, but I really wasn't making fun of this guy who just sings with back up mini discs, he's an ex drummer, but what is bad in my area, is that people that go out to clubs to be entertained don't count heads anymore. You're right, club owners don't want to pay alot of money for 6 or 7 pc. bands. People aren't spending enough money to support it anymore. I was just trying to find out specifically where he gets his tunes, and that's when he moved on. This guy could work 7 days a week if he wanted to. At $200.00 per night, that's not a bad situation. He must of felt threatened that I would move in on his club territory and sing the same songs he does. He's just insecure. Why would anybody want to sing the same songs as someone else and then try to get gigs at the same clubs he works at? Nobody really gave me a specific site to find the songs I mentioned. Thanks guys.
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Post by Emerald Midi on Dec 5, 2006 14:44:28 GMT
Unfortunately we will always come across the unreasonable fellow performer. This is regrettable but it does happen. One time I went to see a guy do a gig in a London pub. He was playing a beautiful Ovation guitar and sang to some backing tracks. No problem with this as I use them myself. But what got me upset with this chap was at the end of the gig I went over to introduce myself and I had a nice chat with him about his performance, telling him about myself being in the business, etc. Everything was going great until I then started to admire his guitar and asked if I could have a go, check the action and so on. I was amazed when he completely, out and out told me "No way!"  I could appreciate his taking this attitude if I was drunk or something but I was actually very presentable - my latest wife won't let me out the door any other way |
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Post by levi2 on Dec 5, 2006 16:01:02 GMT
On the subject of minidisc users ive been using minidisc for a few years and ive watched other artists use them theres 2 things i see artists do which i dont think looks good to the audience .One is having the minidisc behind them they are always turning their back to the audience when selecting a track i got a plinth made for my minidisc which fits on a mic stand and is just placed offset to the side and slightly in front of me this keeps me face front with the audience and easy to select tracks you get to learn to talk to the audience and selecting tracks at the same time nps.The second is when a track finishes ive seen artists quicky jump to the player to pause or stop it. What i do is if the track isnt linked to a medley of songs is record about 10 secs of silence after the track so when the songs finished you can casually with time either press stop or pause
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Post by jie on Dec 30, 2006 16:41:10 GMT
I agree with your comments, very unproffessional
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Post by guilty on Jan 3, 2007 17:59:21 GMT
I use 2 players so rarely have to change disc during set.....as for pressing stop/pause both my players have an Auto Pause feature which pauses the disc at the start of the next track so there's no need to panic at the end of a song. I have everything rack-mounted and set-up next to me so I don't turn my back to the crowd.
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Post by rick on Feb 6, 2007 22:42:47 GMT
I use a 19" rack midi file player "Miditemp M2" with a 40 Gigabyte harddrive, 3,5 floppy drive, and a CD-rom drive. It has a remote control and a cable about 9 feet long (3 meters). I love it! I can do almost anything to a midi file. I can play MP3's, Wav's and combine all of these formats to make a complete mastering out of it. And due to the remote control, i never turn my back on the crowd! I could go on and on about this player, but it would take tooooo long!
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Post by lfc1892 on Feb 13, 2007 16:58:11 GMT
But what got me upset with this chap was at the end of the gig I went over to introduce myself and I had a nice chat with him about his performance, telling him about myself being in the business, etc. Everything was going great until I then started to admire his guitar and asked if I could have a go, check the action and so on. I was amazed when he completely, out and out told me "No way!" You'd be surprised how uppity some people get when it comes to other people handling their guitar! Don't understand it myself... |
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Post by weegeo on Feb 16, 2007 15:24:53 GMT
Hiya Bigmow i see were your coming from with your question regarding mini discs there are loads of songs out there all you have to do is search but i can put you on to a great site for mini disc material and you`ll find loads and loads there i suggest you try Midimart.net and d/load there brilliant mp3`s you`ll not be disappointed my friend
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Post by bique on Mar 1, 2007 8:49:53 GMT
With regards to using Mini Disc Backings, I have played in 4 & 5 piece bands for close on 50 years, about 25 ago I started doing solo work just singing and playing guitar, next step using a drum machine, advanced to a drum machine with preset fills and able to write in a bass line (Wow how time consuming that was). From there to a Korg Q80 sequencer. Then finally I got into Midi files which I still use today working Solo or Duo using a note book computer and a Roland Sound Canvas SC8850 which gives very realistic sounds. I also use a Mini Disc player, I convert Midi Files to Wav using Adobe Audition where I can add extra Guitar or keyboard parts also Vocal backing and Harmonies. I have thousands of backings. Sure playing in a band situation is fine, I love it and it can be spontaneous, using backings you have to really know your tracks and keep your wits about you, the real benefit I can do any thing that I am capable of singing. How many of you out there have spent timeless hours in rehearsal and prep time when other members of your band just take every thing for granted. Solo work with good backings, you only have yourself to answer to. It is an unfortunate situation with what has happened in respect to band work, but we a lucky to get what we get and we are working for the same money we were getting 20 years ago. Well for what can I say, I rest my case.
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Post by doricvision on Mar 4, 2007 22:06:18 GMT
with regards to using minidiscs I find that the best way is to search midimart for your backing track first then download to your pc ,then download Van Basco karaoke player from the internet. Play the backing track thro the van basco player and the great thing with this is, that you can subtract the instrument that you play live i.e. if you are a lead guitarist mute that particular instrument so you can play your own solos. the same again if you are a bass player or drummer, keyboard player etc.A further benefit of this player is that you can play about with the pitch to find your optimum singing key and you can if you want also change the tempo. So now you have done all that place a connecting lead from your headphone socket on your computer to your line in on your minidisc player and record the track.
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Post by sweetk2678 on Mar 7, 2007 13:00:34 GMT
I am a singer who does not play an instrument, I have a guitarist who plays with me 90% of the time and occasionally a conga player, but every now and then I get booked for a solo gig with just me and my backing tracks. It is very daunting to be up there like that as most people are judging you because you aren't playing an instrument, but people still enjoy what I do because at the end of the day, I am still a great singer and that IS my instrument. ;D
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Post by shezza on Mar 7, 2007 21:13:55 GMT
Hi Guy's I have been reading all the comment's about using Mini disc's,Solo Artistes,some playing instruments and some not.
I don't think there is anyone belonging to this forum that would not like to belong to a live band and getting regular work.But the way thing's are with the pub/club scene and if we want to carry on working we have to make adjustments.So if that requires going solo with backing tracks so be it. What I take with me is
technics keyboard, Pa system, 2xMini Disc Players which is not an awful lot of equipment and believe me it takes me all my time to get it into the space that I am given at some pubs.The problem being pubs are trying to pull in the punters by putting on entertainment when they are not geared up for it,as clubs are
But again if we perform for a living we just grin and bear it.
If I remember rightly the two gigs I have this weekend,One I will be stuck in a corner with a fruit machine and a plasma screen above me (switched on) And the other has a massive stage with curtains a nice big dressing room and even a guy that operates the lights. Ahh the good old days!
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