Not Fade Away

[davesasinger]

Somewhere in the forum, a mention was made of fading midfiles, and the need to rewrite the ending of such files......a pain in the butt.

Well, before you do, take a look at the tracks in "event view" (Cakewalk - don't know what other software calls it). Chances are that Controller 11 has been used to create the fade. This will be the case on all channels.

Carry out a selective "cut" removing only Controller 11 commands from all channels at the point from where they start (probably 3 or 4 bars from the end), and hey presto, you will probably (9 times out of 10) find an ending is revealed.

[midimart]

Thanks for that Dave...

Also look for controller '7' this is volume, this also decreases the sound at the end.

If the track does not have a 'proper' real ending, just listen to a few bars before...... ther may be an ending you can cut & paste......

If all that fails, just bung on a couple of drum beats and a crash cymbal..... Usually works.

[JazzCat]

Yes, SOMETIMES you can remove expression (CC 11) or volume (CC7) and find that the original sequencer had a 'live' ending hiding underneath, but most times there is not. The file comes to an abrupt halt where 'a couple of drum beats and a crash cymbal' are not going to do the trick. Another way some people fade a file is by dropping individual note velocities. That's the worst type to find because it's a royal pain to individually raise the velocities back up. In that case you need to delete the entire fade, then if need be, copy/paste more bars to the end, THEN write an ending. I've gotten a lot of practice writing endings for musicians who don't sequence. So, if anyone needs an ending done for them, I'll be happy to do it. I don't charge anything. Just send the file to me with an explaination of what you'd like.
Cat >^..^< oneqtcat(at)juno(dot)com

[midimart]

Thanks for that Cat, I have no doubt that members will take you up on that offer.

I would say that 90% of files like you say have a natural ending underneath the fade or an easy remedy.

6% needs a small cut and paste.

2% like you say, needs a lot of work - velocity and programming.

The other 2% are just too unreal for an easy ending and these, unless one is a programmer (sequencer) - Leave well alone and hope that someone else has or can do the trick.

So if any files that a member has falls into the last 2%, send them in to Cat ---- I know for sure that she will do her very best for you.

[JazzCat]

I would say that 90% of files like you say have a natural ending underneath the fade or an easy remedy.
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No kiddin'? Man, that sure hasn't been the case with me. Ive uncovered a few 'live performance' endings but I find that most of the time, I have to do some writing, and usually it's more than slamming in a tom roll and a crash. I guess I'm picky about the endings, I mean who wants a file that's really well done and kickin' al the way thru to have a weak ending? LOL

Ya know Glen, I haven't had one taker from the forum on my offer. There are a couple people off the boards I do quite a bit of stuff for. I have one that keeps saying he wants to learn how to do the stuff himself but he hasn't had the time to sit down and take some lessons from me. Silly man. Where else ya gonna find someone willing to take the time to teach for freebies? hmmmmmm, maybe I'm the silly one -grin-
Cat >^..^<

[midimart]

Hi Cat...... Good to hear from you again, I know you are a very busy lady and so glad that you are willing to help members.......

I will give you a mention on our next weekly reminder....

[JazzCat]

Thanks Glen,
I know you are a busy man too. I honestly don't know how you keep up with the forums. Maybe you can teach me a more efficient way in dealing with them. If you can, I'd sure be appreciative! See, I've always disliked forums due to having to remember where you posted, & having to use sooooooo much time to search the threads, etc, and so I find myself rarely bothering to. I just found a question from back in February about a piece of Roland equipment. I replied but the question in my mind now is, will the guy ever see my reply? How often does someone go back looking for replies before they give up and stop looking? I've found questions over a year old that I could have answered, had I found them before!
Cat >^..^<

[midimart]

Cat.

Perseverance perseverance.

The only thing I can say on the matter of the forum is it's keeping the forum clear, if I let it build up (threads & posts) for a few days, never mind weeks - I would be at it forever. So I dedicate a short time every morning to go through the new posts.

As for threads over a year old, if you reply to them - they are always brought back to the top of the thread. Therefore the reply is at the top.

Obviously with being an administrator too, I and the other mods etc keep a close eye on the postings, I try to answer all those postings that involve me or MidiMart. There are some questions that I can't answer - I don't profess to know everything about MIDI but like you have a broad knowledge. Sometimes a little research comes in handy too, we have mouseyxxx (Samantha) to do this for us. Therefore more time for me to do the things I'm best at.

In the future we will no doubt be looking for moderators such as yourself to take on a particular board and control the day to day running of that board, but at the moment, we seem to control the forum between the three of us.

If we find that the Forum is growing beyond our capabilities we (the three mods) will conscript a new moderator to help out.

An easier way to keep control of the Forum is that when a new posting arrives, the grey peg on the left of a board becomes blue, click on this board and at the top will be (New) the recent postings. All I do is read the new postings, answer as many as I can or leave them as read and let the members answer them.

The only tip I can give you Cat, is - Keep the postings read and just concentrate on the new postings.

Hope this helps.

God bless and keep up all your hard work.

Best regards