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Post by barnburner on Nov 25, 2008 21:34:25 GMT
Hello,
I have tried for four months to get midi files dropped onto my new Casio px575r digital keyboard. Their tech people at Casio have tried everything they know to do and now today they have finally told me what i suspected all along. They're telling me that the don't support this device and that there's nothing they can do for me. I could live with the fact that the unit would not communicate with my computer but I thought for sure that i could drop midi files onto an SD memory card, slip that into the keyboard and work that way but they're telling me now that their SMF converter will not support my keyboard. I'm sorry to whine. I just thought that you all might appreciate where I'm at. Do you think that third party software might exist to support this unit? I am bound and determined to use MIDI tracks in my music act and I've got to get there without spending an arm and a leg. If anyone has suggestions please let me know. I did at least get a Casio warrenty manager to make a comitment to try what I'm describing and they'll try to do something for me if he finds that I'm right. The problem is that I don't think he even knows what a MIDI file is. Was I a fool to buy Casio in the first place? Thanks for your attention.
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Post by thingyy on Nov 26, 2008 0:42:49 GMT
Casio ...... dont go too hard on the keys as they are prone to snapping off. I guess you could record your midi files into it in real time then save in the casio format, or, use it as a cheap sound module if you want to do a Jap Disco.
My advise to you is to flick it off and get a user friendly Yamaha,Korg.Roland or Technics.
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Post by barnburner on Nov 26, 2008 16:49:07 GMT
I should have known better. I've used Roland gear for years with my accordian setup. This new Casio unit just had fantastic feeling keys with an awsome price. I should have known that the price was too good to be true.
Hello Thingyy,
May I ask you to describe a little further what you meant by recording my midi file in "real time" and then saving them in the Casio format? This unit only has USB. There is no midi connections. I thought that this might effect your description if you have time. I'm also ignorant about what you meant by using the keyboard as a sound module. How does a person do that? I'm interested to know because I'll have to begin saving for a better unit but it may be awhile. Although I'm giving it my best efforts, it doen't look as if Casio is going to help me much. The people that I'm having discussions with at casio warranty office have never heard of a midi file. They want to send it to the repair shop because they have no software for their device. That makes a lot of sense, in their mind anyway. I'm pushing for an upgrade that has software written for it. We'll see. I'm also wondering if third party software might exist for this thing. Thanks for your attention and good day.
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Post by JazzCat on Nov 26, 2008 20:57:39 GMT
I have replied to your thread in two places on the boards already......concerning the Casio, computer connection, MIDI files in zipped format. You are a hard man to follow, with threads jumping around the forum.
Please see my replies to your other posts.
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Post by thingyy on Nov 26, 2008 21:23:36 GMT
Cant you put the midis on a flash drive and plug into the USB port.
What does it say in the manual ?Is there a midi implementation chart in the back of the manual ?
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Post by barnburner on Nov 28, 2008 18:09:16 GMT
Thanks for the replies.
Jazzcat, I'm sorry to have changed posting places. I guess I was a bit unsure where the best spot might be to post my problem. I'll just stay here on the "general midi discussion" section for now unless you have some better advise. I did check your posting responses. Thanks. It is true that this instrument has no midi jacks. The manual just describes all computer hook up through the use of the USB cable. I notice too that your research may have found that this keyboard does not have midi capabilities. I beleive that I am reading my manual correctly. I'd like to ask you if I am reading and interpreting the information correctly. This chapter in the manual is called "Using the SMF Player" "You can use your computer to tranfer SMFs from the bundled CD-ROM to the digital piano flash memory, or SMFs you have downloaded from the CASIO MUSIC SITE. SMF format music data can be stored in the digital piano's built-in flash memory. Data store in the Flash memory can be played back using the SMF Player Mode. You can also load SMF data from an SD memory card into the piano's user area and then play it back using the SMF Player Mode." The manual states later on that"This digital piano supports General MIDI, so it can be used to play commercially available pre-recorded General Midi data and General MIDI data sent to it from from a personal computer." Am I reading this correcly in thinking that it does have midi playback capabilities? I notice too that the manual has description of installing the USB midi driver. Am I off track with my thinking Jazzcat? Thanks.
thingyy,
When you say flash drive, are you desribing the SD memory card that plugs into the keyboard. If you are then I'll tell you that after being told by Casio for weeks that they could solve my problem one of the dead ends that we've run into is the fact that Casio now claims not to have the SMF converter software that would enable me to drop files onto the memmory card and then relay the files to the piano. I've tried it several times. The piano just will not read those files that have not been converted by the converter software. Perhaps that 's not what you meant. I'm not sure. There is a midi implementation chart in the manual. It just does not seem to work for me. Since I last posed I will mention that I have spoke with Casio management about the problem. The only thing that they'll do for me is to have me send the unit to California where they'll install an updated motherboard into the piano. I just want to make sure there it really is an electronic problem and not a user problem,especially because of my being so new to the whole process. I've tried downloading their software onto both an XP and a Vista O/P with no success. I would appreciate any thoughts that you have on the matter. Thanks again.
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Post by Tiny on Nov 28, 2008 18:50:11 GMT
Hi barnburner i was looking on a site about this keyboard and it say,s it is capable for playin mid file,s, have you tried insalling the usb driver from the cd.. to try... just a thought.... rgd,s Tiny  |
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Post by barnburner on Nov 28, 2008 19:45:50 GMT
Yes I have Tiny. Thanks for the suggestion.
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Post by mikemandaville on Jan 27, 2009 10:59:41 GMT
Do you think that third party software might exist to support this unit? Barnburner, to get a music keyboard to work with a computer, three things are required, and these are a MIDI-capable keyboard, a computer, and MIDI software. You already have the first two. What you need is the software. So far as I know, noone has ever gotten a MIDI keyboard to work with a computer without that 'third-party software" that you keep referring to. |
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Post by JazzCat on Jan 27, 2009 12:05:05 GMT
Hi Barnburner,
Well, the title of that chapter says it all. Using the SMF player
What it is saying is that you can load SMF's (Standard MIDI Files) via the USB connection to the Casio's flash memory, then play the files from there, and that's about it. Apparently you can load files from an SB card too, but if you can not get the Casio software installed onto your computer then you'll never get a file onto it, especially if the software converts an SMF into some ungodly proprietary format.
What you have is simply a player. You could akin it to a record player. All you can do put the record on and listen, and play along, on the keys. You can not use the Casio to hook up to a sequencing program on your computer and send outgoing MIDI data. It also can not receive MIDI data from an outside source, such as a sequencing program.
Also, the Casio has ONLY GM capabilities, which in these days, is awfully limited.
Casio is not considered professional equipment. It is consumer grade equipment. Your Roland gear was professional.
This may be a hard pill to swallow but if your going to be a pro, you have to have pro equipment. You can't do a professional gig well with consumer grade equipment any more than a cardiac surgeon can do sucessful bypass surgery with a butter knife.
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Post by mikemandaville on Jan 27, 2009 22:52:28 GMT
Hi Barnburner, Well, the title of that chapter says it all. I downloaded the manual, and I'm going to try to get in touch with Barnburner via private email. Maybe I will be able to persuade him to stop burning down barns! |
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Post by mikemandaville on Jan 27, 2009 23:02:57 GMT
Casio ...... dont go too hard on the keys as they are prone to snapping off. Thingyy, I've got a Casio CTK-573, but I'm not worried about the keys snapping off, because when they do, I've got a backup - my Esteban guitar!  |
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Post by JazzCat on Jan 31, 2009 10:51:26 GMT
Thingyy, I've got a Casio CTK-573, but I'm not worried about the keys snapping off, because when they do, I've got a backup - my Esteban guitar! ha ha ha ha ha!!!!! Yer killing me! ha ha ha ha!!! |
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Post by oldsage on Feb 10, 2009 1:24:44 GMT
with casio it uses midi type0 midi files,so make sure they are not type1 or it wont play them!! if you go to the casio site there is a converter to change the midi files into a special file type!! it,s been so long now!! i cant remember what it was called!!
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Post by mikemandaville on Feb 10, 2009 6:29:04 GMT
with casio it uses midi type0 midi files,so make sure they are not type1 or it wont play them!! Barnburner and I have been sharing a few emails, and I am happy to say that he has been making some progress. The last time I heard from Barnburner, which was a couple of days ago, he was converting files, and playing them on his keyboard, though he was still having some problems with his sequencer. |
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