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Post by weegeo on Sept 1, 2008 15:52:27 GMT
Any comments on Nick Faldo`s wild card picks for his cup team?? I think he has made a big mistake in not including Colin Montgomery and Darren Clarke,in `Monty`s`case he is 1 of the most prolific winners ever in Ryder Cup history,and Darren Clarke is playing well again and would be a massive plus to any team. Paul Casey is certainly playing well but not as well as Clarke and as for Poulter!! I think that any golfer that can`t re-arrange his tournaments[he must have known from Dec07]to play for his place shouldn`t have been included in the team at all,it adds credence to the rumour mill that he must have known before flying out. Any views from anybody
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Post by weeo on Sept 2, 2008 19:31:15 GMT
Hi Weegeo,I'm an avid Ryder cup follower,i usually time my holiday to coincide with it and i have to agree with you.
I think it's fairly common knowledge that Nick Faldo and Monty don't see eye to eye and Monty confessed he's not playing well enough to be included,however leaving out Darren Clarke is unbelievable!!
I'm a proud Scotsman and a big fan of Monty,but i can understand why he wasn't picked, but i'm sure he would have had a big influence on his team mates with his presence alone.
HIs experience,along with Darren Clarkes would have been invaluable and i think they should both have been picked for that reason.
Darren Clarke must be gutted after playing well and winning recently,while Mr Poulter doesn't seem to be a team player at all and that is our strongest point, playing as a team.
Only time will tell ,but for the first time in a few years,i'm not so confident as i have been in the past.
I hope i'm wrong.
I'll still be cheering the boys on .
regards
Eddie
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Post by weegeo on Sept 22, 2008 13:52:23 GMT
Well hate to say i told you so but there you go Faldo`s ryder cup dream is shattered, he made his bed and now he has to take the `flac`i think Clarke and Monty would have been worth at least 3 points at least and even more in team spirit. Certainly Poulter did his job well and i concede that 1, as for most of the rest they all give 100% but in the end poor judgement by Mr Faldo resulted in defeat. Now we will begin the autopsy and shelve out the blame lol Well done USA an winning the cup but i think it`s only on loan to you
weegeo-------------- sitting in the clubhouse filling out his application for captain Fourrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Post by weeo on Sept 22, 2008 15:35:33 GMT
yes weegeo,i'll hold my hand up and admit i was wrong about Ian Poulter,he proved a lot of people wrong.
Although the rest of the europe team tried hard and gave 100%.
they seemed to lack the usual "buzz".
Most of the blame must lie with Nick Faldo.To pick Garcia to lead the team on the final day was a huge mistake.He hadn't being playing well the previous days and admitted to being unwell before going to America.The team selection on the last day,and some of his pairings were questionable as well.
The usa team played out of their skins and deserved to win,but some of the shouts at the europe team from the crowd were uncalled for and unsporting.We'll win it back in a couple of years,it's only out on loan for a while.
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Post by doricvision on Sept 22, 2008 19:26:48 GMT
I would like to add my congratulations first of all to the American team because everyone seems focussed on Nick Faldo's deficiencies and we all are missing the main point that the Americans did play some brillaint golf irrespective of our assumed shortcomings of team selection.
However I would agree with that we did make a grave mistake in not selecting Darren Clarke as he was in form and his Ryder Cup experience was sadly missed especially by Lee Westwood who struggled to get just a half point . Their partnership would have been vital in the Foursomes/Fourballs. Ok I take the point about Monty's record and experience but unlike Darren he was sadly out of form and probably mentally not in the right frame of mind. Ian Poulter justified Nick Faldo's faith in picking him as a wild card and I agree that he was given the nod and wink well before the selection date.
So Where else did we go wrong??
Padraig Harrington has done superbly well in securing two Majors but his record in the Ryder cup is very poor and his tally of just half a point from four matches is probably more of a talking point than the selection process and also if we are to believe that Padraig did in fact volunteer to go out last in the singles seems to me to be a cop out. As our star performer this year he should have led from the front.
To me [and I'm not one of Nick Faldo's greatest admirers] I think Faldo's only other mistake other than Darren Clarkes omission was in assuming that the match would go down to the wire. That thinking would be acceptable if we had been leading going into the singles but being behind ,we should have been trying to get early points on the board to pressurise the Americans and to quieten the crowd. In football penalty shootouts you never keep your best penalty taker till last as the vast majority of shootouts rarely make it to the final kick So to put your best players in a position in a Ryder Cup Singles where effectivelly they might take no part in the match was pure folly.
Right thats got that of my chest.Thanks Weegeo and Weeo for starting a good debate
Regards Bigmike
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