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Post by shyamwestwind on Feb 19, 2008 7:15:21 GMT
Hi Everyone
I am sure there many amongst us who own the Yamaha S 900.
Could you please check and let me know where your keyboard was made in ? Do any of you have a S900 made in Japan ?
I intend buying a S 900 very soon but with the bad experience I had with my PSR 3000, made in Indonesia, I wish to get one which is made in Japan and I wish to have some feedback on this.
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Post by kemo on Feb 19, 2008 11:49:53 GMT
Hey Shyam I will let you when I get home..
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Post by shyamwestwind on Feb 19, 2008 20:37:27 GMT
Kemo, I'm still waiting for you to get home ! lol Please let me know
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Post by shyamwestwind on Feb 20, 2008 9:59:05 GMT
Hi Kemo
I hope you arent upset with me ...........please dont !!
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Post by shyamwestwind on Feb 21, 2008 18:17:17 GMT
After more than a week, I finally got a response to my query, from a Forum member of the YPKO's Forum (Yamaha Personal Keyboard Owners' Forum). His PSR 3000and his S900, were made in Indonesia,and they are working fine !! My PSR 3000 is Indonesian too, and inspite of all the injuries, is still behaving okay..
You might ask me what the fuss is all about. Actually, I am truly curious to know if these are ever made in Japan. If they are made outside Japan or mainly in Indonesia, then why is there such a huge differences in prices for the same product, between the Official Dealer price and the Grey Market price ?
There are SO MANY here in our Forum who have bought S900s and not one can check and tell me where their keyboards wre made in !!!!!!!!!!! I find this sad as I expected some helpful feedback from my friends here.
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Post by JohnG on Feb 22, 2008 8:27:39 GMT
Hi Shyam,
As I think I said before Shyam, prices of a product in a particular country are set by what that market can stand and the position of that supplier in the market and the competition. Also the cost of running a support structure in the country concerned has to be factored in together with the costs of running the company. These can vary enormously from place to place. So you will often see wildly varying differences in final product price between countries. It's probably why they're made in Indonesia in the first place because the cost of running a manufacturing plant there is tiny compared to Japan.
But if it costs Yamaha say 25,000 pounds a year to have an electronic technician available to repair a keyboard in the UK compared to maybe half the equivalent of that in Mexico, and maybe company taxes are lower in Mexico too as well as salaries for all the rest of the staff, maybe shipping costs are lower there too, then it's obviously possible to sell the product much more cheaply in Mexico than in the UK.
Another factor that always affects price is "size of order". If a company has dozens of outlets across a country then it can buy a truckload (quite literally) and it'll get the product at a huge discount. They will have their own warehouse and a van and move the keyboards around themselves to where they're needed. If the company has just one shop they can't afford to buy more than one or two keyboards from each manufacturer and so the price the shop pays will be higher.
If an organisation is really big enough it can buy a container load in the market where the price is the cheapest (say Mexico) and ship them to a place where the price of the product is much higher (maybe in Europe) and so make a big profit. But as they haven't come through the Yamaha agent in the country they're being sold in, Yamaha (quite rightly IMHO) refuses to service them because they haven't made the margin they need to provide support. In this case as the retailer has bypassed the formal Yamaha route, the retailer should provide the support. But, of course, people don't think of asking whether it's a grey import or not when they buy their shiny new toy.
"Market forces, dear boy, market forces."
If you pay a much lower price than normal for something it's either "fallen of the back of a lorry" (stolen) or it's a grey import and you have to ask about service. But you'll often be lied to imho. Or they'll say "when does Yamaha equipment ever go wrong?" Answer "sometimes."
Does that help?
JohnG.
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Post by shyamwestwind on Feb 22, 2008 9:44:48 GMT
JohnG, I agree on all what you have said, and I'm sure you'll agree with me that whatever be the source, the flashy high class Yamaha Music Store, the shifty eyed grey marketeer or the wholesaler in the godown, the product is still the same, a genuine Yamaka product. The Warranty is the contentious point here and if a "Yamaha product never goes wrong" .......... great..... but if it does the parts are still available and can be replaced . The warranty is, anyway for only a year, so I can keep my fingers crossed for 365 days!!!
JohnG, I'm still curious if a better, hardier, Japanese manufactured s900 is available.
When I had to change the rubber keypads in my PSR 3000 I was told by a Yamaha technician that the ones inside were of inferior make and not Japanese !! This is what is worrying. If the insides are inferior to the Japanese model, then where are the Japanese models ? I am sure you understand what Im talking about. Upto now, I have only heard of Indonesian made keyboards. Phew!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by thingyy on Feb 22, 2008 10:35:59 GMT
Shyam,why dont you get your friend Elvis to find out about them in Melbourne for you
if the jap ones are available over here.
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Post by shyamwestwind on Feb 22, 2008 14:49:35 GMT
Yes thingyy, I've just done that. Elvis bought a Tyros 2 from there and he didnt check the label on that till I told him. He thought it might be Chinese, but was really happy to see it was "MADE IN JAPAN" !!!!!!!!!!
He'll be checking out the S900s for me during the weekend.
Dol let me know if you find anything ...please !
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Post by thingyy on Feb 22, 2008 21:32:06 GMT
I went to the Yamaha web site but could not find that info. It would be cheaper over here due to the dollar versus yen exchange rate. If you got a Jap one and had a problem with it could you get it repaired where you are ?
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Post by violet on Mar 5, 2008 6:26:28 GMT
Hi Everyone on the forum!...My psr 900 is made in Indonesia..I love it!...Violet Songbird
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Post by mark on Apr 22, 2008 22:57:37 GMT
Hi All
Just purchased a psr s900 in a Yamaha dealership in Edmonton. It is made in Idoneasia and although I have had it only a few days. I am ecstatic with it. It also came with a 5 year parts and labour guarantee which didn't cost me any extra.
Shyam I reckon you should get one asap. you will not be dissapointed.
Regards
Mark
I am already writing some new songs
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Post by Emerald Midi on Apr 23, 2008 7:04:55 GMT
Hi All Just purchased a psr s900 in a Yamaha dealership in Edmonton. It is made in Idoneasia and although I have had it only a few days. I am ecstatic with it. It also came with a 5 year parts and labour guarantee which didn't cost me any extra. Shyam I reckon you should get one asap. you will not be dissapointed. Regards Mark I am already writing some new songs Good luck with your new purchase, Mark. Sounds like you got a great deal. |
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Post by kemo on Apr 23, 2008 12:04:49 GMT
Hi All Just purchased a psr s900 in a Yamaha dealership in Edmonton. It is made in Idoneasia and although I have had it only a few days. I am ecstatic with it. It also came with a 5 year parts and labour guarantee which didn't cost me any extra. Shyam I reckon you should get one asap. you will not be dissapointed. Regards Mark I am already writing some new songs Hi Mark, good luck with your new purchase. I have to say I have not been disappointed with mines. Kieran |
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Post by shyamwestwind on Apr 28, 2008 6:10:36 GMT
Hi Everyone I'll definetely buy one, but alas, it wont be very soon cos I have other more important things to buy . like a new car, so I guess I'll have to save every paisa I get for the moment. I sometimes wish there were genies granting those three wishes !! The first would be the new car, the second, the s 900 ofcourse and the third  ?? Ha, wouldn't you like to know ?? |
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Post by Emerald Midi on Apr 28, 2008 7:15:18 GMT
I sometimes wish there were genies granting those three wishes !! The first would be the new car, the second, the s 900 ofcourse and the third ?? Ha, wouldn't you like to know ?? Yes, we would! So, come on tell us or we'll have to guess. ;D My guess is some new recording equipment  What do others think it could be? |
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Post by Steptoe on Apr 28, 2008 9:49:51 GMT
I sometimes wish there were genies granting those three wishes !! The first would be the new car, the second, the s 900 ofcourse and the third ?? Ha, wouldn't you like to know ?? Another S900? |
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Post by shyamwestwind on May 1, 2008 11:19:11 GMT
The third wish ? Obviously - Good Health to keep driving around in the new car and to keep Singing with the S 900 !!! With all that, my family will be happy and we'll live "happily ever after"
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Post by shyamwestwind on May 1, 2008 11:26:55 GMT
Well the S900 will be with me very soon - maybe in the next three or four days !! I sold my PSR 3000 to a good friend of mine and I think I'll miss it. It has quite a few new parts in it and was a pretty good keyboard.
I'm excited about the S 900 and waiting to get my hands on it. So many of you have wriiten rave reviews about t, I really cant wait.
I have a favour to ask of you S900 owners. PLEASE, PLEASE send me a recording which you have done with vocals , which you recorded on to the USB pen drive. Please guys, I'm just too impatient and I want to hear a recording done that way.
I'll be waiting. Thanks.
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Post by shyamwestwind on May 6, 2008 16:30:57 GMT
Hi Everyone
As in the PSR 3000, the default setting for the Microphone Effects is on Delay wit tap delay as the default setting.
Please let me know if theres some way I can get the default setting to my liking (Reverb with Hall 5) so that I get this whenever I switch my keyboard on , without going through all the tedious motions of editing the settings.
Really would appreciate some advice on this.
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?? Ha, wouldn't you like to know ??
