PSR S700...Help Needed

[freeway]

Hi guys and gals.. ... moved this query to here might have more luck .. got my new PSRS 700 the other day and enjoying familiarising myself with it..Id say it'll be awhile before I come to grips with it being a newbie in keyboards...........one question for you more experienced tech people.......has anybody here actually made up midi files from their keyboards......? and if so could they pass on a few tips to me.....as Im having problems actually trying to record into Sonar.........Im connected up properly interface sound canvas to keyboard and vice versa.......but confused about syncing up the two of them as regards Clock/Internal/Midi XG /GM Sounds etc..............any help would be great thanx ...regards..............Barry
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[thingyy]

I think you may have to turn the clock off for real time recording.

[JazzCat]

I assume you are wanting to sequence by playing styles and recording all tracks at once via the styles, rather than just you playing solo, and recording each track live. If I assume correctly, the keyboard will send all of the MIDI data to your sequencing program as you play. That includes all patches, controllers and SysEx data that each style sends. Keep in mind that if you are playing from a Yamaha keyboard and listening via the Sound Canvas things just are not going to sound right. That is because Yamaha and Roland used different banks and different Patches, different NRPNs and different SysEx messages to create their sounds. The only things that will remain consistent is anything that is strictly GM.

But, to make further editing more manageable you want the bars to be in time and correct to the grid in the piano roll, or correct, notation wise, in the staff view, if you know what I mean.
That's when syncing comes in.

In order to get that to happen you need to have the keyboard control the clock time for Sonar and Sonar listening to the keyboard's clock.

These are the instructions from MY program, Record Producer Deluxe. Maybe seeing this might help you to translate it to Sonar.


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Synchronizing With Another MTC Device

There are occasions when you may need Record Producer to be a slave to an external MTC (MIDI Time Code) device such as an external hard disk recorder or another computer running a sequencer or hard disk recorder.

MTC Sync with Record Producer as the Slave:
In the Sync Settings dialog box (from the Options menu), set Clock Source to MTC.

Set the master (drum machine, keyboard sequencer) to send MTC.
(You will need to refer to the device’s documentation manual for information on how to do this.)

Connect the masters MIDI out to your PC MIDI interface’s MIDI in.

Press play on the external device and Record Producer should begin playing in sync.


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Sync Settings (Options Menu)

Enables you to synchronize Record Producer with other devices such as a video tape recorder or multitrack tape deck. Synchronization allows you to do things like add complex audio overdubs to a video production or use a multitrack tape deck to provide more audio tracks for recording.

NOTES

When using sync, one device must be designated as the “master” while all other devices are designated as “slaves.”

Record Producer does NOT read the SMPTE audio signal directly. Rather, it reads MTC (MIDI Time Code), a data stream that must be translated from SMPTE tone by a special piece of hardware.

Clock messages are not sent THRU by Record Producer or many hardware sequencers. Consequently, chaining several devices together may not work.

Record Producer does not Generate SMPTE.

Record Producer will automatically detect whatever frame rate comes in, but it is a good idea to set the SMPTE Frame Rate option.

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Now if you simply want to play each part in live than you just need to turn local off on the keyboard and have it send MIDI data to Sonar. Assign a patch in to a channel in Sonar, turn on the metronome in Sonar, and play.
Then repeat the process for the next channel/track.

( If I'm wrong with any of the above, please correct me, John G!)

[freeway]

Yes Cat thats a nice lot of useful info to get stuck into.. ........ thats correct trying to record all tracks at once for the time being till I get my head round all this .......I realise with the 2 diff formats there's gonna be issues............but johng has sent me on the Yamaha XG specs so might get that sorted out first then tackle the sync clock issue.........after I record Ill need to have the recording split into seperate trax ......but thats for another day.....thanx for all the info and johng of course...........Ill get back to you when I need some more help if thats ok.....many thanx again.........regards.............Barry

[JazzCat]

I didn't see that John had answered you in the keyboard forum till after I answered you here, or I wouldn't have posted at all. Oh well. LOL!

[weegeo]

Told you freeway consult the Cat and johng the have most of the answers soc lol lol

weegeo

[JohnG]

Oct 14, 2008 8:22:28 GMT JazzCat said:

I didn't see that John had answered you in the keyboard forum till after I answered you here, or I wouldn't have posted at all. Oh well. LOL!

Not at all JazzCat, my information was very basic, I don't use Sonar you see, yours was the icing on a rather plain cake!

JohnG.

BTW I see you have added some words below the stunning avatar!