Any one fancy this..?

[tommyc]

Wasn't sure where to post this but I guess here is as good a place as any on our site... ok...
I've been waiting a while now for.. The Feelings - "I Love It When You Call" MIDI track to appear... but no joy! :-(
Sooo... If I do the drum track, save it to a MIDI file... post it on here, would anyone like to add the bass line to it and again- repost it here as a MIDI file, for anyone else to add their bit to it, ie... keys / etc...??
Kind of universal band effort :-)

Any takers... let me know and I'll get busy!

Many thanks.
Tom.

[Emerald Midi]

Good idea, Tom and hopefully others will get in on it with you. I like the idea of members collobrating together on projects

Hope you don't mind but I have moved your post here to the Midi talk area as it isn't a request for a specific midi, per-say.

[levi2]

tpmmyc ive been looking everywhere also cannot find it im sure i seen it on a site where they sell midis but cannot see it now

[tommyc]

Hi Emerald...,
No worries buddy... wasn't sure where would be best, I kinda figured a Mod would move it to a more appropriate room! ;-)

Hey Levi....
I know i've seen it too someplace, but after convincing my mate Steve it'll be a good cover to do, I can't recall where i've seen it now! Arghh! haha!
Anyways... I'll crack on with it and if I get it done, I'll post it here for y'all.
Cheers.
Tom.

[JazzCat]

I'll be happy to do the bass line after you have a basic tempo/drum track done.

I have already downloaded an MP3 of it to get familliar with it.

Tom, when you get the drums down e-mail me the file, as I'll probably wind up losing track of this thread, as per usual.

[tommyc]

Great stuff JazzCat!!
I'm on it as we text!

Tom :-)

[tommyc]

Drum tracks completed! Phew! haha.

[JazzCat]

Hi ya Tommy,
I had to do a major editing job on them before I could sequence one bass note. Actually my music partner did it for me. As you recall in my last email to you, I mentioned the one beat was not on the one beat on the piano roll grid. I fixed that but didn't notice till later on that the drums steadily crept forward in time. At the end of the song the drums were coming in a 32nd note triplet early.

That had to be fixed before I could even sequence one note. Having things in time and on the proper grid lines is the only way to be able to work within a sequencer. Even when you are playing EVERYTHING in live, it should be done to a metronome and a tempo track that has been written out ahead of time so that the bars, beats and measures line up properly.

Think of it like this. If you were trying to read a piece of sheet music and the notation and time wasn't within the bar lines on the sheet. How would you know what the time was or how to count it?

Ennywhoooz, That is all straightened out. I put the audio file of the original into my DAW so I can listen as I sequence and I've got a good start on the bass line.
Sorry to say that a lot of it is going to have to be ad-libbed and 'guessed' as the bass is virtually impossible to pick out in quite a few sections, so, I hope you aren't as much of an anorak about bass as you are about drums. LOL!

[shyamwestwind]

I'm really enjoying this ! I hope this materializes to something really good.. We could create our own song with inputs from all parts of the world !!!!! Wow .......E X C I T I N G !

[JazzCat]

World wide collaboration is commonplace now, Shyam. I've been collaborating with someone who lives 2000 miles away from me now for 4 years. I've also collaborated with a guy in England. He did a piano part then I did a bass part, a cello part and a keyboard part. Then, my buddy that's 2000 miles from me did a brass part.

If you really want to see and hear some amazing internet collaboration take a look at the Funk Dawgs!
www.funkdawgs.com/funkdawgs/homepage.htm

[shyamwestwind]

Wow jazzcat, this truly fantastic and it has been a dream of mine for a long long time. I'll go through the link you sent me about the funkdawgs. jAZZFUNK is truly inspiring stuff and I would love to sing over any good tracks. I s there any way I can do this and how do I enrol in this project ? Please do let me have more info ......Id be much obliged. Thank you

[JazzCat]

Well, you can't 'enroll' in their project, they are pretty much a solid group and have been together, via the INTERNET for quite a few years now. They finally all got together and met in person and did a live gig, and that was a wow and a half!
If you want to do it you just have to get out there and find folks who want to collaborate. And hopefully, one of them is a kick-butt studio engineer.
One guy will do one track, another guy will do another and they all send their audio tracks to whoever is doing the mixing, and presto!

Here is the MIDI file of the tune I mentioned above, that the 3 of us collaborated on.
The file is # 153 and is named "Illusion of Love" by Bennett, Jefferson & Co
www.harodilia.com/world_midi_p2_eng.html

Here is the audio file on Soundclick. Ian didn't give us our due credit here.
www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=372813

The bass, strings and E piano are the parts I did.

[weegeo]

just listened to the bottom track very nice work cat i`m impressed think he should have given you credit for it though,well i`m giving you loads of credit for it lol lol
Regards weegeo ----------George

[shyamwestwind]

B E A U T I F U L !!!!!!!!!!! Ian does say Cat Jefferson helped ............... that is really some help, jazzcat. You really areamazingly talented and I'm proud of being your friend.!!!
Could you send us one of your very own musical masterpieces ? Please ?

[JazzCat]

I don't have any Shyam, at least nothing I'd want to put out there. I'm not a good composer nor a very good arranger. As a matter of fact, I suck at both. LOL

Ian had already written the piano. It was easy for me to add parts after that. I asked him for the chords so I didn't have to figure them out and then went for it. Some of the stuff I did was with the help of my arranger workstation keyboard. The E piano was for sure. I'd have to look at the MIDI bass track to see if I played that in. It's been too long for me to remember now. This was back when I was very new at sequencing and I made plenty of technical mistakes.


He said I helped? Gee, I didn't see that anywhere. I know he had it up on quite a few music sites back then, and he seldom gave Jefferson & Co. any credit.
What was sort of cool was that it stayed on the top in the New Age category for months on one site. Stayed #1 for weeks, then in the top 5, then top 10, for 3 to 6 months. Can't remember now how long but it was unheard of for a tune to last that long in the top 10. Too bad it wasn't the Billboard top 100. I mighta been a star! LOL!

[shyamwestwind]

Very modest, jazzcat.

Ian wrote this in his intro to the song "Illusion of Love"

About the song
The very first few bars is what started the idea which developed from there with the helpful collaboration of Cat Jefferson. This song has also helped me to create a website for the average musician www.Homesequencers.net you will aslo find a download point for all of my songs.

[tommyc]

Hey JC.... After going back to my drum pattern to find out why on the earth the tempo should have increased... It really had me freaked out!.... I just figured it out... Durrrr!
You ready for this... Super durrr......
When programming each individual pattern (I usually split a song into approx 15 - 20 seperate patterns for accuracy with fills and rolls etc...) .. evidentally, not tempo though eh! haha....
Anyhoo.... One or two of the patterns, for some unknown reason (human error no doubt!) had increased by 1 bpm from like.., 116 to 117 or something... and unbeknown to me, when I knitted em together into a song, then dumped it into a midi file, hey presto... a totally out of time drummer!!!
Who said drum machines can never be as good as a real shed builder! LOL!
Oh well... real sorry for all the messing about, won't happen again... promise!
TC.

[JazzCat]

Man Shyam, You sure find stuff better than I do! Never did see that anywhere! I better take back what I said, eh?


Hey, TC

I don't know how that messed up the entire track. It slowly went back in time starting from the very first note to the very last. Could watch it happening by scrolling across the screen in the piano roll and keeping my eyes fixed on one spot in the screen. If I had a way of making a movie of it I'd show you what I mean.

If you can fix the track without messing up the 'live play feel' of the slightly off time drums, (meaning notation not quantized 100%) send me the track via e-mail.
See a friend decided he would 'help' me and he did a fine job except for the fact that he quantized 100%. I wasn't gonna tell you and was just going to humanize it back out of perfect time, but if you can fix 'er up I'd rather have it the way you did it.... if ya know what I mean. <S>

I haven't had any time to go back to the bass part yet! Today I spent all day & half the night recording a load of MIDI files to MP3 for a performance tonight ( Saturday) for a good friend.

I have classes and gigs and have had a few more file fixing requests coming in. Extra work always puts me farther behind. LOL
Gad's It's 4:15 AM here. gotta hit the sack and be up to go to the band teacher's house and go through 18 sets of charts for the class and get them straightened out. Bb charts have wound up in Eb instrument books, some charts are missing in books. We have to get that all straightened out before the next 'field trip/gig' the class has! Uhhh! That's going to take HOURS!

[tommyc]

Wow.... erm.... I have to hoover the carpet and put the trash out... I know exactly what you mean!!! LMAO!!!!
I'll get on it!
ps.
I finally figured out how to midi-up my guitar to the Tyros 2 via my Roland guitar synth..... so hang fire on putting any more time into it matey..., I'm pretty good on "Thingz with stringz" so I maybe able to rattle off a bass line this way... Fingers X'd......... I'll see how it go's and email you my attempt, see what ya think!
hahaha.... (No marks outta ten , please!) hahaha.
TTFN

Tom

[mickyb]

It never ceases to amaze me the talent of Our Midi Mart Members, I will have to try and get the patience & the brain to figure out the midi music sequencing malarkey. Hats off to all . Brilliant