Nosmo King

[dingadong04]

P.S my sons birthday is coming up this month .. and he is brilliant ..no health problems everything clear ..just cos i stopped smoking... honest it really makes a difference

cubb

[shyamwestwind]

Aaaaaw C'mon guys, lets not get into the merits of not smoking. All of us agree that smoking is bad. Thats not what all this discussionn is about. We have to accept that there are people who just are not able to give up. Lets not ignore them , lets not shun them , lets not BAN them. They are there - quite a lot of them and they are our friends, our buddies and just because they cant give up smoking, YET, we cant kick them out into the cold literally).
Try and wean them away with all your arguments, but dont push them away.

[weegeo]

Hey cubb ur startin to sound like me lol lol lol lol ur rite r time is past [well almost] but God help whoever is coming behind us cause we set the bar very high lets see how long they remain in the business for but good luck to them btw i did know a few of ur mates in the pic but such is my memory i can`t remember from where lol lol see ya on the road good buddy

[dingadong04]

hi ya weegeo sounding like yer good self ..i don,t know if thats a good thing or bad thing ..lol

[bri]

Hi again all
I started this thread to see if it was worth considering going out on the road again. Judging from your replies, I think I'll leave it for the time being...Tiny, you mentioned getting a resident spot somewhere, but as I've done that for quite a fair portion of my working life, backing cabaret etc., I just fancied doing a bit of travelling. However, don't fancy getting there to be playing to an audience of one - although, come to think of it, that's about the amount of people that I used to get. Thx for your replies.
Regards
Bri

[Tiny]

hi bri
na!! mate with a voice like your,s and a great talent
for writing song,s it wouldn,t be long before you had
a full house...... i,d be there with a load of people
would love to come and see ya!! rgd,s Tiny ;D

[bri]

Thx for those kind words Tiny, but it may be a while yet.
Take care
Bri

[kimbara]

Since the ban came in up in Scotland over a year ago quite a number of the clubs I play in
took a slight hit with attendances but that has now ran its course and the members have
accepted the no smoking policy and clubs are in fact busier than before so don't be to
judgmental old habits may die hard but they die, I can open my keyboard case at home
now without the ashtray aroma fuming out!!!!

[Tubbs]

Maybe in your part of the world kimbara!!!

[midimart]

I went to Edinburgh last New Year....

Yes I'll agree the weather was not too kind, very windy and raining... Most of the events were canceled.

But, The Scott's are renowned for their New Year and there is nothing that anyone can do to stop the Scott's celebrating this wonderful occasion.

I'm not a Scott and just wanted to toast the New Year in like everyone else. We got to the main square and many folk were gathered around celebrating and generally having a good time....

Now to the pubs, I went into 3 different pubs, in the town centre and the most public that were in any of them were just 6... One of the pubs only had 3 non staff drinkers. Now for a New Year celebration at 9.45 - 10.00pm, the pubs and clubs here in Nottingham was bursting out into the streets with drinkers.

I'm sure many Scott's will blame this on the weather, I for one, don't think so.

[weegeo]

We played a club on Sat:nite and it`s normally full it was almost empty infact rite up to 1o:o`clock we only had 30 ppl normally u need to be seated for about 7:30 in this club we started at 9 and finished at 11:15 wat a waste of a good nite the money doesn`t bother me but what does is standing playing to empty spaces Just another moan from weegeo`s soap box

[Emerald Midi]

Here in Ireland (Tipperary area, but also Kilkenny, Limerick and Parts of Cork) it was difficult at the beginning for bar owners but I have to say in all honesty the doom and gloom that was predicted never really materialised. Things are thriving for the most part and many pubs are doing as good if not in some cases better than before, especially with families having meals, etc.

The biggest problem around here is the drink driving laws. This has made life more difficult for the more rural areas.

[jacqui01]

As you may well know the No smoking Ban came into force on 1st July here in England, I have been quite surprised at the difference it has made, but opposite to what I had predicted.
Most of the clubs have been about the same, a few have been busier than before, one club told me their Saturdays are busier because people are bringing in children, when they never did before, and also staying later because it's not getting Smokey now.
I went to a local pub last night for a meal, and at 10pm on a Tuesday Night it was packed, the waitress said they had busier every night since the ban, with lots of new costumers.
Jacqui

[midimart]

I have read these latest posts and all of them say pub/clubs are much busier when they sell meals.....

This is true here too..... But how many artistes or performers out there play to an audience while they eat.....

Shall I start up a Poll on this, and see how many No's I get.....?

A landlord or publican will gain more profit from selling meals than selling beer as 75% of the price of a pint is tax anyway.... 50% + of the price of a meal, is profit..... A slight difference...

Now will the government start taxing meals as they can't get the tax from a pint... They will have to get their taxes from somewhere.

I was a smoker (now stopped and doing well), but I think all smokers should be exempt from any increase in taxes the government may levy...

[thingyy]

I wont but would offer to play a CD of wine and dine music as part of the deal.

[Tubbs]

midimart said:

I have read these latest posts and all of them say pub/clubs are much busier when they sell meals.....

This is true here too..... But how many artistes or performers out there play to an audience while they eat.....

Shall I start up a Poll on this, and see how many No's I get.....?

A landlord or publican will gain more profit from selling meals than selling beer as 75% of the price of a pint is tax anyway.... 50% + of the price of a meal, is profit..... A slight difference...

Now will the government start taxing meals as they can't get the tax from a pint... They will have to get their taxes from somewhere.

I was a smoker (now stopped and doing well), but I think all smokers should be exempt from any increase in taxes the government may levy...

I agree 100% glenn, it boils down to basic human rights, ok, cigs are not good for you, we all know that, so why don,t they ban them? Because they make 80% mark up on them thats why!!

I can tell you now pat that pubs around the midlands in ireland have suffered badly, i know 4 who have sold up, and thats in the same street!!!
Research has shown that proper filtration systems would have dispersed smoke to a safe level regards passive smoking!!

I have also learned through a friend of mine in the know that some eurocrats are pushing decibel levels in pubs and bars caused by music to be reviewed to lower them so will everyone be so happy to agree with our great governments then?

Don,t think so!!

Freedom of choice, so i say to non smokers don,t be selfish!!!

P.S. Just to say i am not biased, as i myself gave them up!!!

[Emerald Midi]

I can understand why some are upset by the ban, must be terrible for those so seriously addicted to the dreaded weed to have to endure such changes. But it has happened, and it will never go back to the days of smoked filled pubs, clubs etc where such a ban has been introduced.

Talking about it may help in some ways but it won't change things tot the way they were.

As someone who has never smoked, and never liked having to breath in smoked filled rooms, I can appreciate the difference.

Simple answer for those smokers who find the ban a problem would be to try giving it up. But life isn't always that simple.

[Emerald Midi]

midimart said:

I have read these latest posts and all of them say pub/clubs are much busier when they sell meals.....

This is true here too..... But how many artistes or performers out there play to an audience while they eat.....

Shall I start up a Poll on this, and see how many No's I get.....?

A landlord or publican will gain more profit from selling meals than selling beer as 75% of the price of a pint is tax anyway.... 50% + of the price of a meal, is profit..... A slight difference...

Now will the government start taxing meals as they can't get the tax from a pint... They will have to get their taxes from somewhere.

I was a smoker (now stopped and doing well), but I think all smokers should be exempt from any increase in taxes the government may levy...

Such a poll could be interesting, so go for it say I.

Smokers are indeed taxed to the hilts and are hit nearly every time there's a budget. I think it would be terrific if all smokers suddenly stopped - what then would the chancellor do

[weegeo]

My local legion club is closing it`s doors in 4 weeks mainly due to the fall in numbers which they put down to the smoking ban!!Now i more than most have every reason to be happy with a smoking ban because of the havoc it has brought to my family!! I also am ill due to passive smoking but thats the way the dice fell My concern is this though we are ALL being treated like school children being told what or what not to do,we all know smoking is bad and very dangerous to our health BUT it`s are choice if we decide to smoke as it is our choice if we decide to go out and get drunk the faceless people in government are telling us we can`t smoke but how are they going to replace the loss in revenue both to the chancellor and the business`s that are suffering because of the ban??? i personally know of a few country pubs that are about to close because the customers don`t want to drive and stand o/side in the freezing cold to have a smoke.On a personal level it`s brilliant to open my case when i get home and there`s no smell from it or my clothes don`t smell but i`d rather play to full houses and endure the smell[i`ve been doing it for 40 years]than play to almost empty halls i suppose the difference is we don`t play pubs we do clubs only so when there`s a drop in numbers it`s very noticeable However just a few more thoughts added to the pot

Weegeo news at ten Belfast lol lol

[50sville]

Our smoking ban (Sydney, Australia) came in July 1, and from the venues I have worked at I have not noticed much difference, although some staff at various club have advised of a slight down turn in numbers