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[jerrymc]

Hi all

Ive watched proceedings over the last few days. As you all know, I cannot sequence, and therefore cannot contribute a lot to the Technical side of things. I have to say, however, that I have been using Midis for a long time, and I had a suspicion [even more than that] some time ago, that some files I had, and that subsequently appeared on Glenn's site, were extremely similiar. Not being able to discuss it in detail, and at the risk of being ridiculed [mostly by Glenn], i refrained from mentioning it.

I have to say that, though Ive never met the Guy, and know little of his sequencing capabilities, I found his attitude [and this is personal only] leaving a lot to be desired. So in some ways...Im not surprised.
I will leave it at that!!!

[Emerald Midi]

Hi Jerry, thank you for contributing to the topic. You'd be really quite amazed by the amount of PMs and E-mails I have received from members with similar sentiments to your own so you are certainly not alone in your views.

[shyamwestwind]

Hi Everyone
I know how most of you feel after this betrayal of trust and I know too that a few of you have burnt midnight oil to investigate and bring things to light, and rightly and thankfully so. Lots has been said and emotions displayed, but I cant help but feel that we should leave all this behind us now and move on,. We need to repair, reconstruct and look ahead, so lets get together and carry the new banner aloft. Hate and ill feeling will only consume us. The "sin" is not so cardinal so why don't we all forgive and forget and carry on ?
Please, shall we ?

[Emerald Midi]

Yes, forgiveness is fine and easier when someone expresses regret for their behaviour and promises to stop or make amends for the hurt they've caused, it's more difficult, however, to forgive when the perpetrator is apparently unrepentant and continuing as normal.

Many, many people have been hurt by these revelations and as long as they wish to express and register their feeling then they are welcome to do so.

[allegro]

Hello folks In a lot of ways i agree with shyam in as much that it needs putting to bed in order to move on, but is anyone aware that this forum is still accessable from the midimart web site.

cheeres allegro

[geraint]

I feel that I have to respond to the comments by Shyam and Allegro, both members for whom I have the utmost respect.

As an admimistrator of this forum, and having being brought in by the owner (Glenn) and the founder of the site (Pat), I think that I may have a different perspective than most.

I joined this forum originally, through finding the MidiMart site and all the wonderful files it provided for me. (free of charge).

The Forum, became a daily part of my life. As a musician and singer, I could relate to people who knew what I did, and what I needed to continue in what I did, it was brilliant.

I was asked to become a Mod on the site, which I accepted as a great honour. I was then subsequently asked to become part of the admin team, which again, I accepted as an even greater honour.

Glenn then decided to make the main site a paid membership only site for downloads.
We all had our misgivings, but alas it happened in order to cover Glenns alleged costs in maintaining the site.

As many of you will know , I have sent Emails to all new members of the forum, welcoming you to our forum, and also recommending that you join the main site to obtain the superb files provided by MidiMart.

The betrayal I feel as a result of these revelations is saddening to say the least, and whilst I can see that we need to put this behind us as Shyam says, in my heart, I would like to hear something from Glenn to explain what he has done.

My love and loyalty for this forum and its members will remain steadfast, and my loyalty to Pat (Emerald Midi) will always be there.

Yes lets move forward, but lets not forget whats happened here, we've been wronged.

I could add a lot more here, but it would not be prudent to do so, as feelings can run wild, as they have in many of the earlier posts on this matter.

Suffice to say, the number of members responding positively here shows that we will continue to be the best MIDI forum on the net.

I have great respect for you all.

[doricvision]

hear, hear and amen
Bigmike

[JazzCat]

Mar 9, 2009 19:56:26 GMT allegro said:

Hello folks In a lot of ways i agree with shyam in as much that it needs putting to bed in order to move on, but is anyone aware that this forum is still accessable from the midimart web site.
cheeres allegro

No, it is not accessible from the midimart.net website any more.
About 2 or 3 days ago Glenn redirected the link to the forum right back to his site.

He however, has not changed anything else on the site. He still boasts joining the forum, and still has amidimart.net email address for Pat, myself, and I don't know who else, up on the contacts page. I really don't understand it.

Personally, I don't think it should be quite 'put to bed' untill Glenn can no longer rip off any more people.

[allegro]

Hello jazzcat, the reason i made my comments were that if glenn had any intention of providing any form of apology. then by now i would have thought it would have been done, but, as nothing has been forthcoming it is quite clear that he has no intention of giving one, therefore i still think that this needs to be put to bed and remove the shadow that is hanging over the forum. And on one final note you can still access this forum from the midimart web site, i have just done so.


cheers geoff allegro

[Emerald Midi]

Mar 10, 2009 8:28:23 GMT allegro said:

Hello jazzcat, the reason i made my comments were that if glenn had any intention of providing any form of apology. then by now i would have thought it would have been done, but, as nothing has been forthcoming it is quite clear that he has no intention of giving one, therefore i still think that this needs to be put to bed and remove the shadow that is hanging over the forum. And on one final note you can still access this forum from the midimart web site, i have just done so.


cheers geoff allegro

As I said earlier, and repeat again for those who may not have read it -- as long as our members wish to express their dissatisfaction with what has happened to them this thread will remain open. Glenn's lack of a response in dealing in his accountability (or otherwise) is indicative of his whole attitude since events were brought to his attention came last September, 2008.

The thread will also remain open in the continued hope of alerting as many people as possible as to the (alleged) activities of that website and its owner.

[shyamwestwind]

I have the same perspective as our friend Gerraint. We found the MidiMart site, used and enjoyed the good Midis and then joined the Forum and enjoyed the warmth of the family that we have become.With this background, I PM ed Glenn and hoped that he would respond to all our queries, and its more hurting than upsetting, not to get a reply to our messages.
Yes, as Gerraint said, " lets move forward, but lets not forget whats happened here, we've been wronged."
It is, indeed, wonderful that all of us have stayed together and I'm sure with Pat, Tubbs, Gerraint,and our good Moderators we'll march ahead. I guess I was just a bit impatient to march on, but, yes, the drums must roll first !

[weegeo]

I think i agree with what Geraint has said, and it was very apparent to me that Geraint has taken a lot of time to really work out what he was going to say, and like him i would like Glenn to make a comment any sort of a comment.

Our good friend Geoff has made a few points that if i may i would like to comment on, 1st. I personally don`t think that at anytime was there ever a shadow over the forum because we were 2 seperate pages[1 for midi`s and 1 for chat] and that was how we worked, i think the very quick response from Pat and the team saved our forum from any sort of `shadow` and they are to be commended.

2nd. I have tried to get access to Glenn`s site and i have been denied access in spite of the fact that my membership hasn`t expired yet, so i have sent a mail asking him to comment and i await an answer, i haven`t been able to access his site or gain entry to our forum for a few days now, i can only assume that Geoff`s membership hasn`t been terminated.

On the point of my membership, i had paid thru paypal and i have informed them to not renew my subscription and the reason why, they have told me that they will invetsigate and arrange to refund my money if possible.

Finally as for letting things go and moving on, i personally feel that as long as i don`t have any answer from Mr Humber then i will continue to ask questions and disscuss with other forum members if they want to, this forum means a lot to me and as some members know it has been a place that has at times kept me sane and i want to thank all the members that have helped me, so as the cool headed Shyam has said for the time being the drums must roll
Just a few thoughts

weegeo

[bri]

As Jazzcat said, I just tried the link to the forum from the midifile site and it redirected back to itself, so I don't know what's happening. Allegro can access it, Jazzcat and myself can't. Some paid up members can't get midifiles anymore; I just tried, as an experiment and I can - not that I'm gonna be using them, except for the ones labelled as not mm, which I assume are ok to use, as they were given in good faith by the members of this forum.
So, at the moment, the midifile site seems to be all over the place, so mebbe summat's rattled Glenn - and his site. Just thought I'd mention it.
Take care
Bri

[oliver101]

Just to let you know that I cant access the forum from the main site either. It doesn't go anywhere except back on itself. I havn't been able to since the weekend.

Oliver101

[rosybud1956]

Many thanks for sharing these 2 wonderful sites Steve. I found some really great stuff. So much for an early night, lol.. Cheers Lyn

[allegro]

For all those who say that they cannot access this forum through the midimart web site, If you google midimart.net, then midimart is the first one on the page, now click on cached then, when midimart page comes up click on forum and voila you are on the forum.

allegro

[oldsage]

Hi Shyam!! no i dont speak Dutch!! clicked on it as trial and error!! and up it popped!!..............Steve

[bri]

Hi again
Just looked at the midifile sites Steve. Nice to see that the first one is run by Ont and Dek *joke*
Take care
Bri

[shyamwestwind]

Hi Everyone
THIS IS VERY VERY URGENT AND IMPORTANT
GlennH sent me a message from an e-mail address [e-mail] I opened it unwittingly to a window asking me to click on an icon of an envelope with a note saying “Please read it or Glenn will think you ignored this”
I was asked to open the message through gmail (my email address) and nothing happened . I received no message , but after a few minutes I got mail saying that my friends in my address book had accepted my invitation to join this “fanic.com” or whatever.
PLEASE DO NOT OPEN ANY SUCH MAIL FROM ANYONE AS IT MIGHT GET INTO YOUR ADDRESS BOOK AND SEND NONEXISTENT MESSAGES TO YOUR FRIENDS
I hope this is not Glenn’s idea of a prank .Quite a few of us have been hoping to get some response from Glenn and this was obviously used by whomsoever to send this “worm” across.
John (Steptoe) had sent a link in the Forum for anyone desiring to contact Glenn. I had clicked on that and all this started happening. (John, please do remove that link if you can )
PLEASE BE CAREFUL.I am in a fix here trying to stop this from spreading and I wonder how

[simmo123]

Hi Shyam,its a funny thing but i actually recieved an email from you with the same instructions saying that if i did not open it Shyam would think that i had ignored the message,fortunately i smelt a rat so to speak & promply deleted it,just thought i would let you & the forum know but i was wondering how your name got on it,hopefully it hasn't infiltrated you address book,i am not to clued up on this sort of thing but it certainly does sound suspicious so everyone be on there guard,Simmo